TheOtherDave comments on Vanilla and chocolate and preference judgements - Less Wrong

29 Post author: Swimmer963 18 April 2011 10:14PM

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 19 April 2011 03:58:51PM 2 points [-]

FWIW, I've lived with people whose actual preferred level of mess-to-live-in was different.

That is, it wasn't that everyone agreed that X level of neatness was better but some people didn't feel like doing the work, it was that person A wanted X level of neatness and was uncomfortable at Y level, and person B wanted Y level of neatness and was uncomfortable at X level.

At least, that's how it seemed to me. I suppose if I started out with a stronger prior in favor of the people-prefer-X-level-of-neatness theory, I might find it more plausible that B was either signaling dishonestly or genuinely unaware of their own preferences. (The latter was A's theory about B, expressed as "If they just live in a neat house for a while they'll see how much better it is!")

That said, both X and Y were noticeably cleaner than the scavenging-arthropods stage.

Comment author: Wilka 19 April 2011 09:38:52PM *  2 points [-]

person A wanted X level of neatness and was uncomfortable at Y level, and person B wanted Y level of neatness and was uncomfortable at X level.

I've had a similar experience of somebody wanting a (small) amount of mess. The explanation was that if a house didn't look 'lived it' it wasn't really home, and therefore not a conformable place to live.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 19 April 2011 09:57:15PM 4 points [-]

I actually am such a person, if anyone wants to ask relevant questions. I grew up in a very messy house - my father didn't care, and my mother was disabled enough to have trouble keeping on top of things - and I find living-places that are too clean to be anxiety-inducing.

Comment author: Swimmer963 20 April 2011 02:26:16AM 1 point [-]

I expect my best friend's son (now 6 months old) may grow up this way. They live with her mother-in-law and I have never in my life seen so much stuff in one house. The overall impression is of abundance rather than clutter, but there's still a lot of clutter. It's the kind of house where a student like me goes empty handed and leaves with a bag full of food and old clothes to try on and extra Tupperwares.

Comment author: David_Gerard 19 April 2011 04:01:45PM -1 points [-]

I have lived with people whose natural level of cleanliness is (a) comparable to mine (b) nevertheless rather awful when I look at it slightly afresh (c) we both realise this (d) we have some difficulty acting on it anyway.

Share houses are a good reason to become a terminal misanthrope, at least for a while.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 19 April 2011 06:59:23PM 0 points [-]

Well, yes... there's that, too. There are reasons I don't live that way anymore.