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Comment author: Cayenne 21 April 2011 01:59:29AM *  21 points [-]

And if anyone is making the group less Fun or scaring off new members, and yes this includes being a creep who offends potential heroine recruits, give them an instant ultimatum or just fire them on the spot.

At the LW meetups I've been to so far, I've seen what I would call 'swarming' around each female present. It doesn't seem malicious, but they each end up being in the center of a group...

I guess this is something for other people to corroborate, I'm just a lonely data point waiting for my line.

Edit - please disregard this post

Comment author: ciphergoth 21 April 2011 06:45:57PM 4 points [-]

I don't think we've seen this in London, but obviously our actual female participants would be better placed to comment.

Comment author: taryneast 01 January 2014 02:56:52AM 1 point [-]

I didn't see it happening while I was there.

Comment author: ciphergoth 01 January 2014 11:57:41AM 1 point [-]

That's good to hear - thanks! Very keen to hear feedback on this sort of thing.

Comment author: jsalvatier 21 April 2011 02:48:03AM 4 points [-]

Hasn't happened at the (4) meet ups I've been to.

Comment author: CronoDAS 23 April 2011 08:40:33AM 3 points [-]

I'll confirm that this phenomenon exists; I routinely participate in such "swarms". I do not know to what extent this is actually a problem, though.

Comment author: Vaniver 21 April 2011 04:24:13PM *  2 points [-]

I've been to 1 meetup with 5 participants, of which one was female (and married to another participant). So I don't really have much relevant data yet. My guess is if this sort of thing shows up, it happens with larger meetup sizes.

I'm not sure it's avoidable, though. I think the best improvement vector is to try to decrease the creepiness without trying to decrease the interest.

Comment author: Dorikka 21 April 2011 02:28:12PM 2 points [-]

How many meetups have you been to and seen this? Do you think it produces negative effects; if so, what?

More data, yum yum. :D

Comment author: taryneast 01 January 2014 02:58:40AM 0 points [-]

I can postulate, based on past experience (not with LW meetups). It depends on the person. Some people like a lot of attention and find it energising... some people don't and can find it overwhelming and exhausting. If a person finds it overwhelming and exhausting they may be turned off coming next time.

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