persephonehazard comments on The benefits of madness: A positive account of arationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 25 April 2011 05:58:04AM *  1 point [-]

People abuse painkillers and antibiotics, but we still find those useful. It doesn't really seem to follow to me, that people abusing drugs suggests that drugs are therefore not useful.

That seems to be the point I just made, if I parsed your negatives correctly. I assume someone objected.

Comment author: handoflixue 25 April 2011 08:41:53AM 2 points [-]

Ahhh, apologies. I am used to parsing "These substances are sometimes abused" as being shorthand for "I disapprove of illegal drugs, because some people abuse them; therefore they should be shunned as being categorically evil."

My own personal stance is that drugs are a useful tool, as long as you're careful with the risk factors they involve. I feel quite a lot of illegal drugs have fairly high utility and low risks, at least compared to our social acceptance of risk in other areas.

Comment author: persephonehazard 08 June 2011 02:24:24AM 1 point [-]

May I ask what you mean by "useful"?

My own feeling - as a user of various illegal drugs - is that fun itself is enough use alone, but I don't know if that's quite what folk are meaning here.

Comment author: handoflixue 08 June 2011 03:49:34AM 0 points [-]

Given the current state of mental health support, at least in the US, I consider them a useful tool for some people to self-medicate. Fun is also a nice perk :)

Comment author: persephonehazard 08 June 2011 02:08:22PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, that's definitely true. And also, of course, cannabis is a marvelous painkiller.