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Comment author: gwern 23 April 2011 06:55:41PM 1 point [-]

Will significant human natural selection happen before the extinction of the human race?

In the absence of a Singularity? Who knows. Evolution wins eventually, somehow, but the details matter a great deal.

If it were to happen, would it be a very bad thing?

That is the fundamental question of this post. Kevin Kelly argues in a somewhat related essay, http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/11/the_origins_of.php , that evolution winning might not even stop progress.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 23 April 2011 07:32:49PM 4 points [-]

There are plausible scenarios for a singleton control without singularity. Our institutions could outpace evolution at the rate they get smarter and eventually decide to stop it. You'd just need to build some highly stable, global architecture.

But nothing is perfectly stable. So I'm going to agree with your contention that Who, in fact, knows.

Genetic evolution winning causes irreversible negative progress. If human value is complex, then genetic evolution necessarily destroys information about human value - information that will not be replaced because our descendants will not want to replace it.

The question is how much value?

Comment author: [deleted] 25 April 2011 10:15:37PM 0 points [-]

Genetic evolution winning causes irreversible negative progress. If human value is complex, then genetic evolution necessarily destroys information about human value - information that will not be replaced because our descendants will not want to replace it.

The question is how much value?

Indeed.