JohnH comments on Is Kiryas Joel an Unhappy Place? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JohnH 23 April 2011 11:37:28PM 2 points [-]

Thank you for that link, it was interesting.

Did they take into account that Utah is an outlier within the US in the Religion aspect? Not that I expect that to be influential in the slightest.

So then suicides are a strong indicator of personal unhappiness but a potential indicator of overall social happiness. That is very interesting.

I know a decent portion of people on Less Wrong are utilitarians/consequentialists what are the implications of the results of this study from that perspective?

Comment author: spriteless 22 December 2013 06:16:39PM 0 points [-]

My first thought was that if everyone with a low happiness level had already committed suicide it would bump up the average happiness. I mean, the dead don't answer those polls.

Killing the unhappy to make sure everyone is happy is an amoral solution, is my conclusion from a utilitarian perspective. Yep. Don't do that. Engineering peeps with higher happiness set points seems the moral counterpart, but we can't do that yet.