byrnema comments on Being Wrong about Your Own Subjective Experience - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 25 April 2011 02:29:21PM 2 points [-]

Can you describe a mostly concept dream?

I always have visuals in color going on in dreams. I'm not sure that I hear sounds. I get some kinesthesia. Sometimes I get concepts in the sense of "just knowing" the backstory for something in a dream. I only remember taste/smell happening once.

I've read that no one dreams of landing a real punch, which I assume means a plausible amount of tactile/kinesthetic input.

Comment author: byrnema 25 April 2011 04:02:14PM *  1 point [-]

looking on Wikipedia I find this:

In a study published in the journal Human Brain Mapping, participants who were in REM "dream" sleep were also monitored by special MRI imaging designed to visualize brain activity. The researchers found activity in areas of the brain that control sight, hearing, smell, touch, arousal, sleep-wake transitions, balance and body movement.[4][5]

I get concepts in the sense of "just knowing" the backstory for something in a dream.

I heard, and then self-interrogated and found it plausible, that most of a dream is backstory. Suppose a dream lasts 5 minutes subjectively, then the dream would actually be 5 minutes of subjective backstory with a few seconds of visual images. In particular, the dream only lasts a few seconds. (I also understand that the visual images come first, perhaps semi-randomly, and then the brain overlays a story.) Also from the same Wikipedia page:

During dreaming, the primary visual cortex is inactive, while secondary areas are active. This is similar to when subjects are asked to imagine or recall a visual scene, and different from what happens when they are actually seeing the scene.[6]

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 25 April 2011 04:37:56PM 0 points [-]

In one of Patricia Garfield's books (either Pathway to Ecstacy or Creative Dreaming), she concludes after much introspection that dreams are stories built around bodily sensations.