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Well, when you have something substantive and meaningful to point to let me know. I suggest tabooing words like "ethics", "morality", "should", etc. If you can give me a clear reductionist description of what you're talking about in metaethics without using those words, I'd love to hear it.
There is no reason I should avoid the words "ethics", "morality", etc, in a discussion of ethics, morality, etc. It is in fact, an unreasonable request on your part.
I am also unpersuaded that I need to be a "reductionist" on the topic. The material on reductionism on this site seems to me a charter for coming up with pseudo-solutions that just sweep the problems under the rug.
My substantive point remains that you have not made a case for eliminating ethics in favour of preferences.
I'd like to hear more on this charter for pseudo-solutions. What's wrong with the mainstream LW picture? By private message or in this thread (if it's not too tangential) or in a new discussion thread.
Your substantive point is nonsensical. My physical, real world understanding of intelligent agents includes preferences. It does not include anything presently labeled "morality" and I have no idea what I would apply that label to.
I don't think you have anything concrete down there that you're talking about (I'd be excited to be wrong about this). So you can do your little philosophers dance in a world of poorly anchored words but I'm not going to take you seriously until you start talking about reality.
If you can't figure out what to apply "morality" to, that is your problem. Most people do not share it.
Alright.
I'm going to give this one last shot. Can you explain, succinctly, what you're talking about when you say "morality"?
concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct
What is it about conduct that makes it right and good as opposed to wrong and evil?
What is it that determines these attributes, if not human preference?
Could you explain this further?