Jonathan_Graehl comments on What is Metaethics? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 03 May 2011 01:11:46AM 0 points [-]

Perplexed wrote earlier:

Morality teaches you when to punish and reward (and when to expect punishment and reward). It is a second-order concept, and hence not directly tied to preferences.

Sometimes you'll want to explain why your punishment of others is justified. If you don't want to engage Perplexed's "moral realism", then either you don't think there's anything universal enough (for humans, or in general) in it to be of explanatory use in the judgments people actually make, or you don't think it's a productive system for manufacturing (disingenuous yet generally persuasive) explanations that will sometimes excuse you.

Comment author: Amanojack 03 May 2011 01:19:39AM 1 point [-]

Assuming I haven't totally lost track of context here, I think I am saying that moral language works for persuasion (partially as Dark Arts), but is not really suitable for intellectual discourse.

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 03 May 2011 01:38:59AM *  0 points [-]

Okay. Whatever he hopes is real (but you think is only confused), will allow you to form persuasive arguments to similar people. So it's still worth talking about.