matt comments on Bayesians vs. Barbarians - Less Wrong

51 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 14 April 2009 11:45PM

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Comment author: matt 15 April 2009 10:08:20PM *  5 points [-]

Not a very good data point. Athens at that time was not a community of rationalists. Xenophon's March of the 10000 or Thucydides History of the Peloponesian War are both fairly readable classical sources for the extreme stupidity (even by modern democratic standards) of the Athenian democratic process. And their army voted for autocratic undercommanders who then had life and death power over the troops. The distant Athenian democracy voted for autocratic overcommanders.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 15 April 2009 11:45:03PM *  3 points [-]

I didn't say it was very good. I said it was our best. The world has never had a country of rationalists.

If the point of the original post was that a society of inhumanly-rational people can win wars, then it's of limited applicability at present. I'm assuming that we're talking about IQ 100 Bayesians. (Which may be an empty set.)