rhollerith comments on Bayesians vs. Barbarians - Less Wrong

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Comment author: rhollerith 16 April 2009 09:38:05PM *  3 points [-]

I think people exist who will make the personal sacrifice of going to jail for a long time to prevent the nuke from going off. But I do not think people exist who will also sacrifice a friend. But under American law that is what a person would have to do to consult with a friend on the decision of whether to torture: American law punishes people who have foreknowledge of certain crimes but do not convey their foreknowledge to the authorities. So the person is faced with making what may well be the most important decision of their lives without help from any friend or conspiring somehow to keep the authorities from learning about the friend's foreknowledge of the crime. Although I believe that lying is sometimes justified, this particular lie must be planned out simultaneously with the deliberations over the important decision -- potentially undermining those deliberations if the person is unused to high-stakes lies -- and the person probably is unused to high-stakes lies if he is the kind of person seriously considering such a large personal sacrifice.

Any suggestions for the person?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 November 2010 02:55:35PM 2 points [-]

Any suggestions for the person?

Discuss a hypothetical situation with your friend that happens to match up in all particulars with the real-world situation, which you do not discuss.

It isn't actually important here that your friend be fooled, the goal is to give your friend plausible deniability to protect her from litigation.