JoshuaZ comments on What data generated that thought? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Randaly 26 April 2011 11:42:06PM 2 points [-]

Maybe you disagree with something that I've said here? In that case, what data do you think generated this advice? What conclusions would you derive instead?

I disagree with your claim that obviously wrong information is still worth reading because it gives you clues into the author's thoughts and the evidence behind them.

This is kinda obvious, but I think that prior experience with successful from following this principle generated the advice. That, and possibly an overestimation of its useful due to the fact that it's counterintuitive- evidence for it could cause you either to overcorrect, or you may be more likely to remember the times when its correct, since those would probably be more memorable. (Alternately, you may be implicitly referring only to reasonably OK writing, or to descriptions of physical events, in which I'd be more equivocal.)

I'd say that bad interpretations are, in general, not worth reading.

  • Most incorrect interpretations tend to be very similar; once you've, e.g. read one explanation as to why Obama is a Muslim, there's probably very little more to be gained from reading more. This applies to less wrong, or even correct reasoning, as well- if you understood the first, there's probably relatively little to be gained from reading two textbooks covering the same material.

  • There's no reason to assume that the argument will, in fact, be an interpretation of an event, or, even if it is, that the description will be accurate. Even ignoring, e.g. post-modernist tracts, many accounts involve just making things up. e.g. I ignore anything from the Discovery Institute. (Which would tell me what? Something about what they think they want their readers to know? That's not useful to me, and I could probably make equally good predictions just by introspection.)

  • Any time you spend reading one thing is time not spent reading something else; just because the account provides a little useful information isn't a good reason to read it.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 27 April 2011 04:21:31AM 0 points [-]

is applies to less wrong, or even correct reasoning, as well- if you understood the first, there's probably relatively little to be gained from reading two textbooks covering the same material.

At least in math, the method of proofs used and approach to the same thing can be different, and quite revealing. Reading the same material with even just different presentations can help one understand what the main ideas are.

Comment author: Randaly 27 April 2011 11:33:34AM 0 points [-]

I agree; I'm assuming here that you understood the first textbook well enough that the second one is of much less use.