Alicorn comments on Phoenix Less Wrong Meetup- Saturday, 5-7-11, 5pm - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CuSithBell 03 May 2011 08:41:07PM *  1 point [-]

The general idea is - don't use [(non-value-judgment) terms that describe certain types of people] as value judgments. Trivial examples are: "bad" is okay, if somewhat anemic (!!! Wait, is that offensive? I'll leave it in in case anyone wants to address that question), because it's not identifying any particular group as "bad" except... "bad people". "Gay" should be discouraged, because it's basically saying "people who are gay are bad, so I am calling you gay to indicate that you are bad".

Comment author: Alicorn 03 May 2011 09:12:58PM 2 points [-]

I have anemia, which I control with iron pills. It was in no way a part of my identity and I have a hard time imagining why it would be. I don't mind it being used in this way.

Comment author: CuSithBell 03 May 2011 09:18:50PM 0 points [-]

I'm glad! I don't like losing vocabulary (I was sad when I lost "ply", and am still conflicted over the word's correct meaning).

Also: that's a brilliant entry you've linked to there, and I'll have to toss it around in my brain a bit. Thanks!

Comment author: Marius 03 May 2011 09:24:10PM 1 point [-]

Why did you lose ply?

Comment author: CuSithBell 03 May 2011 09:43:50PM 1 point [-]

I was under the impression it had a meaning like "coerce [by means of gifts]", but apparently it's closer to "supply". As such, I 'lost' the word that I thought it was.

I have an inkling that the meaning I thought it had is a connotation, but I'm not certain. How have you seen it used?

Comment author: Marius 03 May 2011 09:50:44PM 2 points [-]

I think there is a connotation that one is supplying the person for ulterior/underhanded motives. I would ply a politician with hookers to get a law changed, or ply a source with alcohol so that I can ask him questions with less resistance... but plying customers with apples in exchange for fair market value just sounds weird.

Comment author: CuSithBell 03 May 2011 09:52:39PM 0 points [-]

Okay, good, I'm glad you sense a similar connotation! Thanks :)