AdeleneDawner comments on Phoenix Less Wrong Meetup- Saturday, 5-7-11, 5pm - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AdeleneDawner 04 May 2011 03:39:38AM 0 points [-]

If I remember correctly, the bird name and the ableist term have pretty similar etymology (both are related to 'luna'; the latter is related to the old belief that full moon causes aggressive/unpredictable behavior - see also werewolf myths). It might not be possible to disentangle them sufficiently to figure out where 'loony' came from, but I've never seen it considered offensive so I suspect you're okay.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 May 2011 04:32:02AM 1 point [-]

to figure out where 'loony' came from, but I've never seen it considered offensive so I suspect you're okay.

Loony? As in "loony bin"? How could that possibly be considered less offensive than 'lame'? It is a huge deprecation of those with mental health problems. Of course mental health problems are lower status than physical ones - and for something to be 'offensive' the insulted group has to have social power.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 May 2011 08:48:54AM 0 points [-]

Social consequences of an intense version of concern about insults. More

It's not the same at LW-- we've got civility rules which forbid personal attacks-- but this might be of interest.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 May 2011 09:00:10AM 4 points [-]

It's not the same at LW-- we've got civility rules which forbid personal attacks

At least, we have civility rules which puts bounds on the nature and style of the personal attacks. As well as in which contexts personal attacks are acceptable, who is permitted to make them and who it is acceptable to attack.

That is, we're kind of like any other human social group.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 May 2011 11:02:34AM 1 point [-]

It's plausible that I was being too abstract. Still, some of the ideas which have apparently plagued feminist blogs are in play here, without such extreme ill effects, and it might be worth looking for an explanation.

LW is more consequentialist than most places, and that might help.

Comment author: wedrifid 05 May 2011 03:35:57AM -2 points [-]

Still, some of the ideas which have apparently plagued feminist blogs are in play here, without such extreme ill effects, and it might be worth looking for an explanation.

To be frank I think people have brought their issues from feminist blogs here more than enough and then some.