Sorry if I wasn't being clear. What I am saying is that the people who "stumble onto the exercises" are being treated as culture-naive which is a big assumption, particularly since they were talking with other Buddhists like yourself, and their experiences were being translated into your "cultural framework". That was the reason I mentioned "illiterate Catholic kids from remote villages who have reported ecstatic visions similar to those achieved by ancient mystics." There was an assumption that they were naive about the expected experiences of the culturally approved experience, when they in fact weren't.