AdeleneDawner comments on Meditation, insight, and rationality. (Part 1 of 3) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Armok_GoB 05 May 2011 01:02:35PM 0 points [-]

I wish I could upvote this more than once, how the expletive does it only have 26 upvotes?

One thing that is strange is that I recognize all of these things very intimately, and this enlightenment they describe seems to describe a lot about what's different with me than most other people... But I always associated it with learning about rationality in general, and have never gotten into the habit of explicitly meditating, although I certainly spend a whole lot of time in vaguely meditation-like mental sates. Is there any precedent for archiving this kind of enlightenment through means other than meditation, or is this just my pattern matching returning a false positive (wouldn't be the first time...)?

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 08 May 2011 12:07:23PM 2 points [-]

You're at least not the only one, though in my case it appears to just be my natural state rather than being related to anything I learned.

(My first 'wait, what?' moment relating to meditation was when I was a teenager, newly out of being Christian, just starting to look into new age stuff, not even aware of rationality as a potential thing to be pursued. I got a book on meditation and concluded that I must be misunderstanding it because all the stuff it talked about about involuntarily thinking about things and having to put a lot of effort into quieting those thoughts was so foreign to my actual experience.)

Comment author: Armok_GoB 08 May 2011 06:54:48PM 0 points [-]

That actually helps a bit, lowering the probability I'm simply delusional. Thanks.