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52 Post author: lukeprog 07 May 2011 01:38AM

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Comment author: JohnH 07 May 2011 07:09:08AM -3 points [-]

Precisely, that utility function is heuristic or intuition. Further survival can only be desired according to prior knowledge of the environment, so again a heuristic or intuition. It is also dependent on the actions that it is aware that it can perform (intuition or heuristic). One can only be an agent when placed in an environment, given some set of desires (heuristic) (and ways to measure accomplishing those desires), and given a basic understanding of what actions are possible (intuition), as well as whatever basic understanding of the environment is needed to be able to reason about the environment (intuition).

I assume chapter 2 of the 2nd edition is sufficiently close to chapter 2 of the 3rd edition?

Comment author: lukeprog 07 May 2011 07:19:13AM 4 points [-]

I don't understand you. We must be using the terms 'heuristic' and 'intuition' to mean different things.

Comment author: JohnH 07 May 2011 07:22:15AM *  -2 points [-]

A pre-programed set of assumptions or desires that are not chosen rationally by the agent in question.

edit: perhaps you should look up 37 ways that words can be wrong

Also, you appear to be familiar with some philosophy so one could say they are A Priori models and desires in the sense of Plato or Kant.

Comment author: lukeprog 07 May 2011 08:11:31AM 1 point [-]

If this is where you're going, then I don't understand the connection to my original post.

Which sentence(s) of my original post do you disagree with, and why?

Comment author: Peterdjones 07 May 2011 04:25:58PM 0 points [-]

Intuitions are usually defined as being inexplicable. Apriori claims are usually explicable in terms of axioms, although axioms may be chosen for their intuitive appeal.

Comment author: JohnH 07 May 2011 06:09:17PM 0 points [-]

although axioms may be chosen for their intuitive appeal.

precisely.