AndrewHickey comments on Sarah Connor and Existential Risk - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 01 May 2011 09:41:48PM -1 points [-]

No, that's not the only reason. Generally speaking, one either has no warning that violence is coming (in which case one can't throw the first punch) or one does have warning (in which case it's possible to, e.g., walk away, negotiate, duck). On the other hand, none of us are perfect predictors of the future. There will be times when we believe the first punch is about to be thrown when it isn't. If we avoid aggression until attacked, it may be that nobody gets punched (or shot) at all. There's a reason that tit-for-tat is such a successful strategy in an iterated Prisoner's Dilemma - and that the only more successful strategies have been ones that punished defection less than that - and it's nothing to do with signalling.

Comment author: wedrifid 01 May 2011 09:51:54PM *  1 point [-]

I rejected a fully general moral prescription, not advice for what is often optimal decision making strategy:

Self-defence (or defence of one's family, country, world, whatever) is perfectly acceptable - initiation of violence never is. It's never right to throw the first punch, but can be right to throw the last.