James_Miller comments on Ethics and rationality of suicide - Less Wrong

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Comment author: James_Miller 02 May 2011 07:28:25PM *  1 point [-]

The ability to cut it off at a later point doesn't change the calculation

Consider two people identical in every respect except that starting tomorrow the first person will always be watched and will never be capable of committing suicide whereas the second will always be capable of committing suicide. Do you contend that their rational calculation for whether they should commit suicide today is the same?

Or, are you saying that a person should kill himself if and only if doing so would increase his expected utility? I don't think, however, this was implied by khafra's post

Comment author: Desrtopa 02 May 2011 07:35:57PM 0 points [-]

Or, are you saying that a person should kill himself if and only if doing so would increase his expected utility? I don't think, however, this was implied by khafra's post

That's exactly what I'm saying, and as far as I can tell, exactly what khafra was saying as well.

Whether you will be able to kill yourself in the future doesn't affect the expected utility of that future, except insofar as things which would prevent you from killing yourself would affect its utility.

Comment author: James_Miller 02 May 2011 08:22:47PM 1 point [-]

Expected utility is basically defined as that which a rational person maximizes.