MBlume comments on Your Price for Joining - Less Wrong

44 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 March 2009 07:16AM

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Comment author: MBlume 26 March 2009 08:18:23AM 11 points [-]

voting should have nothing to do with any groupthink. Vote down for "I'd like the time it took to read that back". Vote up for "if that writing were removed from my memory, I would want to take the time to read it again."

Comment author: taw 26 March 2009 09:09:22AM 0 points [-]

Maybe it shouldn't but on reddit, and before than on slashdot, and everywhere else I've seen that's how it ended up being used. Up = agree, Down = disagree. Now I want my time back, so down.

Comment author: Z_M_Davis 26 March 2009 04:33:44PM 2 points [-]

on reddit, and before than on slashdot, and everywhere else I've seen that's how it ended up being used. Up = agree, Down = disagree.

The hope is that we'll be able to avoid this. For myself, I'm in the habit of upvoting well-argued comments that I nevertheless disagree with.

Comment author: taw 27 March 2009 03:28:10AM 4 points [-]

The hope is that we'll be able to avoid this. For myself, I'm in the habit of upvoting well-argued comments that I nevertheless disagree with.

I would like to believe that's what I'm doing, and I think I'm fooling myself. It's enough if our thresholds for up/downvote are different for comments we agree and disagree, something like:

  • Somewhat annoying comment you agree = ignore
  • Somewhat annoying comment you disagree = downvote
  • Someone smart comment you agree = upvote
  • Somewhat smart comment you disagree = ignore

As most comments are in this not completely brilliant and not complete rubbish category, this is quite close to upvote on agree, downvote on disagree.

Comment author: soreff 28 March 2009 04:33:45AM 0 points [-]

In principle, I suppose there could be multi-dimensional voting, with at least different dimensions for degree of agreement, for how well-argued a comment is, and for degree of relevance to the topic (or at least sub-thread). Of course, if one goes far enough down that road just choosing the multidimensional vote starts to become an energy drain in and of itself... (www.ted.com has at least 8 dimensions for rating their talks - which is enough to dissuade me from rating them...)