RobinZ comments on The 5-Second Level - Less Wrong

111 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 07 May 2011 04:51AM

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Comment author: RobinZ 08 May 2011 02:31:46PM 5 points [-]

My usual method when confronted with a situation where a speaker appears to be stupid, crazy, or evil is to assume I misunderstood what they said. Usually by the time I understand what the opposite party is saying, I no longer have any problematic affective judgment.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 May 2011 12:00:29AM *  4 points [-]

My usual method when confronted with a situation where a speaker appears to be stupid, crazy, or evil is to assume I misunderstood what they said. Usually by the time I understand what the opposite party is saying, I no longer have any problematic affective judgment.

I usually find that I do understand what they are saying and it belongs in one of the neglected categories of 'bullshit' or "<OvercomingBias style nonsense/>".

Comment author: RobinZ 09 May 2011 01:38:43PM 2 points [-]

Those don't usually give me much trouble - I find that the nonsense people propose is usually self-consistent in an interesting way, much like speculative fiction. On reflection, what really gives me trouble is viewpoints I understand and disagree with all within five seconds, like [insert politics here].

Comment author: wilkox 09 May 2011 01:09:24AM 2 points [-]

"things that people say that really actionable beliefs even though they may not be clear on the difference"

This sounds interesting, but I can't parse it.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 May 2011 05:38:23AM 0 points [-]

This sounds interesting, but I can't parse it.

That's because you are using an English parser while my words were not valid English.

Comment author: RobinZ 09 May 2011 01:08:56AM 0 points [-]

"things that people say that" what? The grammar gets a little odd toward the latter half of that.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 May 2011 05:39:43AM 0 points [-]

Fixed.

Comment author: RobinZ 09 May 2011 01:15:14PM 0 points [-]

Thanks!

Comment author: endoself 09 May 2011 01:19:54AM 1 point [-]

Presumably "things that people say that aren't really actionable beliefs"; though this reply feels awkward in a discussion about misunderstanding, I'm pretty sure that was the intended phrase.