Hul-Gil comments on But Butter Goes Rancid In The Freezer - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Hul-Gil 09 May 2011 07:36:29AM *  8 points [-]

I'm an biochemistry major, so organic chemistry takes up a large part of my time. I'm still just a lowly undergrad, though, so Google will probably do as well as me. In any case, here are my thoughts:

  1. Rancidity is caused by several mechanisms: mostly hydrolysis, various microorganisms about which I know nothing, and oxidation. I do not think butter will go rancid in liquid nitrogen, since it would need water, microorganisms, or oxygen to do so. I imagine rancidification is slowed at cryogenic temperatures, but I'm not sure if oxidation and hydrolysis would completely stop.

  2. I don't see why they wouldn't be... but given the site we're on, I'm hesitant to come right out and say yes.

  3. I would suspect this question is not answerable with any precision at this time.

  4. The presence of oxygen is certainly relevant to randification normally, so I would guess so; but don't quote me on it.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 09 May 2011 10:47:01AM *  10 points [-]

Are these or similar reactions possible in the brain, given all the cell membranes and mylenation and so on that are primarily made out of fat?

I don't see why they wouldn't be... but given the site we're on, I'm hesitant to come right out and say yes.

You shouldn't (be hesitant), not for that reason.

Comment author: Hul-Gil 10 May 2011 02:10:24AM 1 point [-]

Heh, a good point; I would actually have replied the same way on any forum, but I thought I'd include that comment as a nod to LessWrong's devotion to rationality. It probably helped that I had just read an article about knowing when not to venture a guess!