Bongo comments on Norms survey (dead) - Less Wrong

0 Post author: Cayenne 10 May 2011 11:01AM

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Comment author: Bongo 10 May 2011 01:20:51PM *  1 point [-]

I believe that we need to have a clear, concise statement about the beliefs, practices, and taboos that it is rational to hold, and that we already hold as a group.

We don't know what beliefs, practices and taboos it is rational to hold. They're probably not the same ones that we already hold as a group. Thus we won't discover them by just investigating the ones we currently have.

Decide whether you want to list what norms LW has, or to investigate what norms it would be "rational" to have (a loftier project to say the least).

Comment author: Cayenne 10 May 2011 02:07:20PM *  0 points [-]

I'd like to know what we have now. Really if we were going to make a new, 100% more rational version, we would still need to know what we're starting with.

That said, this is probably just a sunk cost now, and not worth contributing to. I'll just concentrate on things I'm less bad at, and ignore my step-forward impulses from now on.

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Comment author: lsparrish 10 May 2011 03:41:00PM 1 point [-]

Step-forward impulses are an awesome thing to have, something we "should" all cultivate. Don't apologize for them. As far as your being bad at this, I am skeptical and suspect you are backing down too quickly. At worst this is an opportunity for people who are opposed to your approach to explain (and perhaps figure out more clearly for themselves) why it is a bad idea.

Comment author: Cayenne 10 May 2011 03:48:26PM 1 point [-]

I have a policy of only doing fun things, or things that lead directly to fun. As soon as something becomes non-fun, I find something else to do. The potential benefits of this, and the use I would get out of them, aren't worth the cost to me or the time others have sunk into it.

In a lot of ways I already live in the least convenient possible world, so I'm just going to assume that the result I would have gotten was the one that would have been the worst. I won't waste anyone else's time with this anymore, so the whole effort is moot. If someone wishes to try to do this in a more adept fashion, then I wish them well. Apologies for wasting your time with this.

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