Norms survey (dead)

Cayenne

Edit - Barring a major surprise, this post should be regarded as a worthless artifact of my impulse to do things instead of talking about them. I apologize for any time wasted on this, and would recommend ignoring it unless it is for historical purposes. I'll just stick to things I'm less bad at from now on.

This article will be edited as people post and discuss.

I believe that we need to have a clear, concise statement about the beliefs, practices, and taboos that it is rational to hold, and that we already hold as a group. To be clear, this is not an attempt to make new norms, but an attempt to codify the ones that we already hold and to get a rough estimate of the popularity/importance of each.

Core Rational - skills, meta-beliefs, and habits that enhance personal rationality

Social Rational - norms that enhance working in groups rationally

LessWrong Norms - norms for dealing with Less Wrong specifically

Common Knowledge - basic, useful beliefs to build on

Please post one phrase at a time and then give your reasoning under it. Once any idea has a common consensus, I'll add it to this article in the appropriate list.

Edited - Removed the word 'should' as someone has suggested a better phrasing. Edited again - category change, remove extra now-useless examples.

This article will be edited as people post and discuss.

Core Rational - skills, meta-beliefs, and habits that enhance personal rationality

Social Rational - norms that enhance working in groups rationally

LessWrong Norms - norms for dealing with Less Wrong specifically

Common Knowledge - basic, useful beliefs to build on

Please post one phrase at a time and then give your reasoning under it. Once any idea has a common consensus, I'll add it to this article in the appropriate list.

Edited - Removed the word 'should' as someone has suggested a better phrasing. Edited again - category change, remove extra now-useless examples.

I'm still lost. We write things down and link to them and cite them all the time; I don't see why you think that's bad in this case. It does add the implication that the cited norm is generally agreed on, but if we've talked the norms over and only listed ones where that's the case that doesn't seem likely to be a problem - and, even in that case, citing a listed norm only seems to me to carry about equivalent conversational weight to someone posting "[behavior] is normal here; you should have expected it" and getting upvoted in agreement a couple of times. Plus, it gives new people an opportunity to learn those norms more quickly, and also allows us to explicitly not count certain things as norms even if they're common habits, if they're things we want to allow anyway.

There is some context that might be notable, here: Alicorn and I happen to have been working on a house norms list for the last several days, since we decided to offer CronoDAS the opportunity to come stay with us for a while. That's been going quite well, and appears to have several advantages over a house rule list - the flexibility mentioned above is one, and the fact that norms can semi-contradict each other in ways that rules mostly can't is another, for example. So I have some positive affect built up around the concept, where I suspect that you have some negative affect around it because of how the concept came up here.

Alicorn and I happen to have been working on a house norms list for the last several days

That is something that I do when I live in shared accommodation as well.

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Please post one phrase at a time and then give your reasoning under it. Once any idea has a common consensus, I'll add it to this article in the appropriate list.

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Please post one phrase at a time and then give your reasoning under it. Once any idea has a common consensus, I'll add it to this article in the appropriate list.

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