ata comments on SL4 META: list closure 2 month followup - Less Wrong

15 Post author: gwern 10 May 2011 03:46PM

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Comment author: gwern 10 May 2011 07:58:40PM 2 points [-]

but could you please find some way to keep the archives accessible online, so we can keep linking to individual messages like I did in this comment?

From my first email:

There's no shame in shutting down the list. Let's provide a tarball of emails for archival purposes (the Internet Archive has up to February 2009: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090319140021/http://sl4.org/archive/), and turn off the listserv.

Comment author: ata 11 May 2011 08:36:00PM *  1 point [-]

Why not just leave the current archives on sl4.org online indefinitely? It's stored as flat HTML and doesn't require the list to actually be active.

Comment author: gwern 11 May 2011 09:03:48PM 0 points [-]

I've never suggested otherwise. A mailing list is not a website.

Comment author: ata 11 May 2011 09:14:32PM *  1 point [-]

I know, I was responding to "Let's provide a tarball of emails for archival purposes (the Internet Archive has up to February 2009)". A tarball sounds like a good idea, but I was confused by the mention of the Internet Archive when the official SL4 archive is still working fine.

Comment author: gwern 11 May 2011 09:40:56PM 4 points [-]

My point there was that sl4.org will cost $8+ a year indefinitely (for the domain name alone), and my mental target is 2070; will Eliezer pay >$600 just to keep sl4.org going? Probably not. I'd guess sl4.org will be no more by 2030 at the latest. So it's nice to know that there's an existing backup already even if no one ever gets around to making a tarball dump of the website.

(I've learned to ask for busy people to do as little as possible; if I suggested a dump be made and only then SL4's listserv shut down, I would guarantee that the proposal go nowhere.)

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