MixedNuts comments on Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia - Less Wrong

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Comment author: thomblake 27 May 2011 02:52:34PM 0 points [-]

So, you can know precisely which neurons should fire to create a sensation of red (or anything else), and yet not be able to make them fire as a result.

Maybe, but Mary nonetheless by hypothesis knows exactly what it would feel like if those neurons fire, since that's a physical fact about color. Like I said, that's begging the question in the direction of materialism, but assuming that fact is non-physical is begging the question in the direction of non-materialism.

Comment author: MixedNuts 27 May 2011 03:02:39PM 5 points [-]

Then she knows things humans in their current form can't learn except by seeing red. Either she found a way to reprogram herself, or she has seen red, or the problerm is ill-posed because it equivocates between what humans can learn at all and what they can learn from reading words in textbooks.