shokwave comments on The elephant in the room, AMA - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shokwave 12 May 2011 04:53:59PM 15 points [-]

People who hold obviously incorrect beliefs can still be highly intelligent and productive:

And one of the concerns I detected in wedrifid's comment (one I share myself) is that if highly intelligent and productive people start doing what obviously incorrect beliefs indicate they should, the world is going to be optimised in a direction I won't like.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 14 May 2011 05:04:07AM 7 points [-]

I kind of think that's already happening. All over the place. All the time. What kind of policy implications did you want to draw from it in this particular instance?

Comment author: shokwave 14 May 2011 05:14:27AM 1 point [-]

Hmm, what policy...

No amount of clear thinking elsewhere can excuse you from being wrong about this one thing. To think so is to treat being right and wrong like a social game, where people with high status gets a free pass on questions with actual answers.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 14 May 2011 05:25:17AM 2 points [-]

Could you please be more specific? What sort of action is being taken here as a result of your worry?

Comment author: shokwave 14 May 2011 02:31:39PM *  2 points [-]

Not voting for religious candidates for Australian Parliament elections.

Comment author: D_Alex 16 May 2011 03:39:11AM 1 point [-]

My inclination would be to discourage posts with undertones of religious propaganda on this site.

Comment author: wedrifid 13 May 2011 05:21:46AM *  0 points [-]

And one of the concerns I detected in wedrifid's comment (one I share myself) is that if highly intelligent and productive people start doing what obviously incorrect beliefs indicate they should, the world is going to be optimised in a direction I won't like.

Exactly! If beliefs like this are just used as verbal symbols for navigating the social world they do relatively minor harm. Once someone with the intelligence, productivity and otherwise rational thinking necessary comes to follow the belief to the logical conclusion comes along things start exploding. Or rationalist communities become modified in a direction that makes them either less pleasant or less effective than I would prefer.