As you must know, this was not a comment about you specifically at all. However, if the shoe fits, you can put it on if you want.
You're speaking up on behalf of a religious organization of which you are a member. Your organization claims that a certain unchanging text from the past is extra-specially true and supports your particular organization. You are incapable of providing any remotely sensible reason why we should think this particular text is special in any way. You would really prefer to talk about why your particular text is internally consistent, and also consistent with what objective data shows. When faced with evidence that your text is not internally consistent, and does not reflect reality, you will retreat into increasingly strenuous logical silliness.
I'm not speaking so much about you personally as about your legions of predecessors and colleagues in all sorts of religions. I take you for one of a long, long, line. I don't think you have anything new. They never do. Predict something in advance, on the public record, that actually comes true, then you will have my attention.
text is not internally consistent
Where is it not internally consistent? Seriously, you aren't the first person on Less Wrong even to claim internal contradictions in my faith but so far no one has given me anything.
remotely sensible reason why we should think this particular text is special in any way
You seem familiar with the normal sensible reasons of why you should think this particular text is special and have already discounted those reasons as being invalid.
increasingly strenuous logical silliness.
example of this please?
...certain unchang
Hello fellow Less Wrongians!
Given your comments on my organizing communities series, I get the feeling that many of you are wondering why:
I'm happy to hold discussions about any of these questions or related ones. However, I haven't responded to many comments on the main series of posts because:
I wanted to created this thread as a center for questions you might have about my faith. This is not an attempt to preach -- I would be perfectly happy not having a discussion purely about religion at all. But since there seem to be many comments, well, fire away.
Some basic facts: I am a student at Stanford. I am 22. I converted to Mormonism when I was 19. I used to be atheist/agnostic. I am very much a believer, not just in it for the social perks.
Well, as it is written, AMA (= Ask Me Anything)
(Thanks Kevin for the suggestion.)
Edit: Wow, there are a lot of comments. This has been a helpful chance to clarify my thinking. I hope you have learned something useful -- perhaps using the question is 'Is there anything surprising here that he said?'.
Edit 2: Here are some answers to repeated questions. Again, this really helped me distill and clarify myself and I've enjoyed the discussion.
Why do you believe? It's a combination of
I would estimate that before this all happened, my odds ratio was about 2000:1, and now it's about 1:10. I would ballpark the odds ratios of each of the above 3 events as ~12.5:1, ~25:1, and ~62.5:1. (I was considering likelihood but didn't think in that precise of terms at the time, so any concretization is open to charges of ex post facto. And these are still ballparks.)
There are lots of arguments against Mormonism on factual and historical grounds; there are also counterarguments which I feel pretty much balance them out. (The feeling of balancing each other out was contemporaneous.)
What things could make you consider leaving the faith?
Why do you think your conversion story is disappointing to many of us?
Several possible reasons:
[1] Specifically: