orthonormal comments on Nature: Red, in Truth and Qualia - Less Wrong

35 Post author: orthonormal 29 May 2011 11:50PM

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 06 June 2011 06:02:39AM 4 points [-]

I had read that, but it didn't "click" with me, probably because I had never programed in Lisp before. I'm guessing the OS handle analogy would make more intuitive sense to the typical programmer.

BTW, in this line of thinking, there's nothing really special or mysterious about consciousness. It's just a mind or a part of a mind with verbal abilities. But that seems to rule out the approach of defining pain (as a moral disvalue) as negative reinforcement experienced by a conscious mind. If consciousness is just possession of verbal abilities, there seems no reason to assign special moral status to it. But then what is pain, and what is morally bad about it?

Comment author: orthonormal 08 June 2011 07:50:12AM 5 points [-]

A related and horrible thought: has anyone thought to ask the right lobe of a split-brain patient whether it's in pain? Or, more horribly: has anyone tried to suppress the corpus callosum for a moment (there's a specialized helmet which targets electromagnetic waves to do this for various areas) and ask the right lobe of an ordinary person how they feel?