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Comment author: atucker 14 May 2011 04:30:44PM *  15 points [-]

Where can I exchange snide remarks for constructive criticism?

In all seriousness, I don't think Giles is trying to get much applause here, so much as make it easier for people to coordinate their efforts.

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that he knows that he doesn't know the specific steps to take in order to accomplish his goals. Which is why he wants to talk to these people.

I think that he has done a pretty bad job of PR, and should have more concrete ideas and plans before he continues posting on the subject. Furthermore, he's continuing to use the heavily loaded phrase "save the world" in ways which probably discredit it, and this site.

That being said, I think that this comment is almost entirely destructive, and makes no progress towards anything other than continuing to tear Giles down. Which the current karma system is already doing.

Comment author: Giles 15 May 2011 02:13:52AM 7 points [-]

If I'm going to be torn down, I appreciate information as to why. A snide remark is a lot more useful for this than a plain downvote.

Comment author: Giles 15 May 2011 02:01:27AM *  4 points [-]

Where can I exchange snide remarks for constructive criticism?

Right here. Following Rain's example:

Reply to this comment with snide remarks, about a linked comment/post on a topic which a LW reader could be expected to have some familiarity with.

I will attempt, within my ability and within reason, to turn each snide remark into a constructive criticism. Up to a limit of 101 comments. I won't respond if someone else does a satisfactory job first.

Duplicates are allowed but will yield duplicate responses. There is no per-user limit but please play nice and don't hog them all for yourself.

(EDIT: time limit - end of 2011)

Comment author: Giles 15 May 2011 02:02:23AM 2 points [-]

I'll kick it off with Vladimir_Nesov's example:

Where can I exchange units of applause for units of world-saving?

Comment author: Giles 15 May 2011 02:08:13AM 4 points [-]

I appreciate Giles's stated motivations but feel he is not pursuing the optimal approach to achieving them. Specifically, he has been a little too hasty recently when posting to LW; some of his posts appear to be "empty" or even "trollish", and if anything this could be seen to damage his cause rather than advance it. If he has these goals but is unsure of the best approach to achieving them, perhaps he would be better off personally corresponding with those who have similar goals instead of engaging in disruptive or irritating activity such as this.

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