PhilGoetz comments on Spend Money on Ergonomics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 23 December 2011 03:23:42PM *  9 points [-]

"I like memory foam mattresses. A minority of people really don't."

I tried a memory foam mattress - the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme, queen size. This is a $3000 bed. It felt amazingly soft in the store. But when I tried it at home, it was unbearable, for 2 reasons:

  • I don't roll over in my sleep. Doctors don't believe me, but I don't. Memory foam is very good insulation. So I would wake up around 3AM, drenched in sweat, because the foam underneath me was about a hundred degrees Fahrenheit, then roll over to a cold part of the bed, then wake up 3 hours later when that part got hot.

  • People talk about getting back support from a bed. You don't want back support. At least, not when we're talking about the small of your back. With soft memory foam, the heaviest parts of your body - your torso and your butt - sink deeply into the foam over time. The small of your back does not. Pretty soon your body is in an upside-down-U shape, with torso and butt sinking down into the bed, while between them the small of your back is bent over a lump of memory foam that it isn't heavy enough to squash. Painful.

Before that, I had a semi-wave waterbed, a very cheap one (for a waterbed). It was a terrible hassle to move (you could never drain out all the water, so it still weighed about 150 pounds empty), but wonderful to sleep on. In the summer, I didn't need air conditioning at night; I controlled my temperature by how many blankets I put between me and the water. In the winter, heating the bed was probably cheaper than heating the house.

Comment author: Kevin 23 December 2011 03:41:13PM 1 point [-]

The cheaper memory foam mattresses on Amazon right now aren't pure memory foam, but mixed foam, and they are much more breathable while you sleep. Something like http://www.amazon.com/LinenSpa-Viscoelastic-Mattress-20-Year-Warranty/dp/B00474X5DO/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1324654812&sr=8-10 claims air flow as a product feature.

Comment author: Vaniver 23 December 2011 03:28:19PM 1 point [-]

I'm curious about his heuristic- did you think you'd like it before you took it home?

(For anyone trying to aggregate opinions, I have the exact same mattress and enjoy it.)

Comment author: PhilGoetz 30 December 2011 11:52:46PM *  0 points [-]

Yes; I tried it in the store several times before buying it. Why would I spend $3000 on a bed if I didn't think I'd like it?

I now have a spring mattress that I bought at a garage sale for $10, including delivery. I like it better.

Comment author: Vaniver 31 December 2011 03:57:09AM 0 points [-]

Yes; I tried it in the store several times before buying it. Why would I spend $3000 on a bed if I didn't think I'd like it?

It could have been someone else's purchasing decision, or you were reluctant until you laid down on it. I was pretty sure the answer would be yes but wanted to check.

Comment author: bogdanb 27 December 2011 02:38:12AM *  0 points [-]

Two people commenting on LessWrong both own a Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme, queen size!? Is that a very common model in the (I assume) US?

Comment author: gwern 27 December 2011 03:56:23AM 2 points [-]

The birthday paradox comes to mind.

Comment author: taryneast 07 January 2015 12:25:01AM 0 points [-]

Interesting - I'm the opposite - can't stand water beds, because I turn into a U-shape with small of back down and head-and-butt up... So uncomfortable!

Whereas I love my memory-foam mattress. Never looked back! One other feature I love is a drastic reduction in partner-based sleep-disturbance (through movement... can't do anything about snoring).

As a compromise, you know you can buy a memory-foam mattress-topper. That gives you the support of the normal mattress, with the softness of the memory-foam. It's also much cheaper than buying a whole memory-foam mattress.