gwern comments on Suffering as attention-allocational conflict - Less Wrong

49 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 18 May 2011 03:12PM

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Comment author: gwern 18 May 2011 04:39:35PM 8 points [-]

Still, my experience so far seems to suggest that this framework can be used to reduce any kind of suffering. To some extent, it seems to even work on physical pain and discomfort. While simply acknowledging physical pain doesn't make it go away, making a conscious decision to be curious about the pain seems to help. Instead of flinching away from the pain and trying to avoid it, I ask myself, ”what does this experience of pain feel like?” and direct my attention towards it. This usually at least diminishes the suffering, and sometimes makes it go away if the pain was mild enough.

The PRISM theory of consciousness seems relevant: http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=791

What’s the primitive, bare-bones, nuts-and-bolts thing that consciousness does once we’ve stripped away all the self-aggrandizing bombast? Morsella’s answer is delightfully mundane: it mediates conflicting motor commands to the skeletal muscles.

Morsella sees us as a series of systems, each with its own agenda: feeding, predator avoidance, injury prevention, and so on. Mostly these systems operate on their own, independently. We can’t voluntarily dilate our eyes, for example. We can’t consciously control our digestive processes, nor are we even generally aware of them — peristalsis, like the pupil reflex, is the purview of the smooth muscles (and no, gas production by gut bacteria is not the same thing). But when digestion is finished — when the rectum is full, and you’re ready to take the mother of all dumps, but you’re on the in-laws good living-room carpet and your incontinent uncle is hogging the toilet — then, sure as shit, you become conscious of the process. There’s a sphincter under voluntary control that’s just urging you to let go. There are other agendas suggesting that that would be a really bad idea. And I would challenge anyone who has ever been in that position to tell me that that situation is not one in which conscious awareness of one’s predicament is, to put it mildly, heightened.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 May 2011 03:26:14PM 1 point [-]

This sounded very interesting, so I looked into the PRISM theory, and it turns out that some of the papers relating to this are available for free online at Morsella's university page here: http://bss.sfsu.edu/emorsella/publications.html

I'm reading some of http://bss.sfsu.edu/emorsella/images/MorsellaPsychRev.pdf right now and it mentions the PRISM specifically.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 24 May 2011 02:21:54PM 0 points [-]

Just read the paper. Thank you - it's awesome. It helped me produce some extra insights relating to both this and our lack of strategic thought, which I need to write up as soon as I've cleared them a bit in my mind.