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Comment author: David_Gerard 08 June 2011 10:13:16AM *  0 points [-]

A lot of it is due to education, a difference of interest, and a little more ease when it comes to symbol manipulation [...] but little has to do with insurmountable hardware limitations.

I wonder if that makes a difference in practical terms. There's all sorts of potential in one's genes, but one has the body, brain and personal history one ends up with.

What I mean is no longer feeling like the smartest person in the room and quite definitely having to put in effort to keep up.

I haven't heard of any evidence that would suggest that there are human beings who can't understand linear algebra.

I first encountered humans who couldn't understand basic arithmetic at university, in the bit of first-year psychology where they try to bludgeon basic statistics into people's heads. People who were clearly intelligent in other regards and not failures at life, who nevertheless literally had trouble adding two numbers with a result in the thirties. I'm still boggling 25 years later, but I was there and saw it ...

Comment author: XiXiDu 08 June 2011 10:49:08AM *  2 points [-]

I wonder if that makes a difference in practical terms.

If only by its effect on yourself and other people. If you taboo "smarter" and replace it with "more knowledgeable" or "large inferential distance", you do not claim that one can't reach a higher level:

"That person is smarter than you." = Just give up trying to understand, you can't reach that level by any amount of effort.

vs.

"That person is more knowledgeable than you." = Try to reduce the inferential distance by studying hard.

I first encountered humans who couldn't understand basic arithmetic at university...

I believe that to be the case with literally every new math problem I encounter. Until now I have been wrong each time.

Basic arithmetic can be much harder for some people than others because some just do the logic of symbol manipulation while others go deeper by questioning axiomatic approaches. There are many reasons for why people apparently fail to understand something simple, how often can you pinpoint it to be something that can't be overcome?