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Comment author: David_Gerard 08 June 2011 10:13:16AM *  0 points [-]

A lot of it is due to education, a difference of interest, and a little more ease when it comes to symbol manipulation [...] but little has to do with insurmountable hardware limitations.

I wonder if that makes a difference in practical terms. There's all sorts of potential in one's genes, but one has the body, brain and personal history one ends up with.

What I mean is no longer feeling like the smartest person in the room and quite definitely having to put in effort to keep up.

I haven't heard of any evidence that would suggest that there are human beings who can't understand linear algebra.

I first encountered humans who couldn't understand basic arithmetic at university, in the bit of first-year psychology where they try to bludgeon basic statistics into people's heads. People who were clearly intelligent in other regards and not failures at life, who nevertheless literally had trouble adding two numbers with a result in the thirties. I'm still boggling 25 years later, but I was there and saw it ...

Comment author: XiXiDu 08 June 2011 11:57:47AM 0 points [-]

I first encountered humans who couldn't understand basic arithmetic at university

Thinking about this a bit longer, I think mathematical logic is a good example that shows that their problem is unlikely to be that they are fundamentally unable to understand basic arithmetic. Logic is a "system of inference rules for mechanically discovering new true statements using known true statements." Here the emphasis is on mechanical. Is there some sort of understanding that transcends the knowledge of logical symbols and their truth values? Is arithmetic particularly more demanding in this respect?