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I really don't care about simulated torture, certainly not enough to prefer war over self-modification if simulated torture becomes an issue. War is very expensive and caring about simulated torture appears to be cost without benefit.
The story is consistent with this. Fred has problems because he cares about simulated torture, and Thud doesn't care and doesn't have problems.
Hmm, perhaps we agree that the story has only one source of absurdity now? No big deal either way.
(UDT is still worth my time to understand. I owe you that, and I didn't get to it yet.)
Err, the point of having a decision theory that makes you go to war against extortionists is not to have war, but to have no extortionists. Of course you only want to do that against potential extortionists who can be "dissuaded". Suffice it to say that the problem is not entirely solved, but the point is that it's too early to say "let's not care about simulated torture because otherwise we'll have to give in to extortion" given that we seem to have decision theory approaches that still show promise of solving such problems without having to change our values.