Prismattic comments on Metacontrarian Metaethics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Prismattic 23 May 2011 04:26:25AM *  0 points [-]

Trying again here, as I'm not sure I expressed myself well in the previous attempt. The original problem is that you either torture one person or give 3^^^^^3 people dust specks. For purposes of this thought experiment, therefore, we must assume that there exist at least 3^^^^^3 people in some number of universes. So if you asked each and every one of them the formulation I offered in the grandparent, and they all chose the chance of torture based on your reasoning, exactly one of those people would be in for a very unpleasant surprise.

Also, the probability of the torture is greater than the probability of spontaneously converting into a frozen treat for an improbably attractive sasquatch, since we have no reason whatsoever to expect that there is anything that could cause the latter, but we have already taken as a given that there is some individual in the multiverse with the capacity to choose to inflict torture or dust specks.

[Edited] to correct the numbers to be of identical powers.

Comment author: wedrifid 23 May 2011 10:34:40AM *  2 points [-]

The original problem is that you either torture one person or give 3^^^^^3 people dust specks. For purposes of this thought experiment, therefore, we must assume that there exist at least 3^^^^^^3 people in some number of universes.

3^^^^^^3? Do you know the difference between 3^^^^^^3 and 3^^^^^3? Compare the size of an electron and the size of the entire universe. Then forget that because that doesn't come close to demonstrating it. This means that the fact that you said the original problem is about 3^^^^^3 when it is actually about a mere 3^^^3 is a relatively minor error.

That you are so willing to jump from 3^^^3 to 3^^^^^^3 in the same conversation suggest you don't really grasp the point here. The amount of people experiencing discomfort really does make a difference. There is an unimaginable amount of pain at stake.

Comment author: Prismattic 23 May 2011 10:39:50PM *  0 points [-]

The sixth carrot in 3^^^^^^3 was a typo, which I am correcting.

Comment author: Peterdjones 23 May 2011 10:43:03PM 0 points [-]

And "carrot"?

Comment author: Prismattic 23 May 2011 10:44:57PM 0 points [-]

The name of the grammatical symbol "^" is a carrot, as far as I know.

Comment author: Peterdjones 23 May 2011 10:54:39PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: Prismattic 23 May 2011 11:02:08PM 0 points [-]

Duly noted. On reflection, I've never actually seen it spelled out before.

Comment author: FAWS 23 May 2011 09:36:30AM 1 point [-]

You do not seem to understand how large 3^^^^^3 is.