Wei_Dai comments on Inferring Our Desires - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 24 May 2011 07:37:42PM 6 points [-]

My impression is that once these misunderstandings go away and people ask themselves what considerations they're really moved by, they'll find out that where their utility function (or preferences or whatever) disagrees with what, on reflection, seems right, they genuinely don't care (at least in any straightforward way) what their preferences are, paradoxical as that sounds.

I think you would have a strong point if the arguments that really move us forms a coherent ethical system, but what if when people find out what they're really moved by, it turns out not to be anything coherent, but just a semi-random set of "considerations" that happen to move a hodgepodge of neural circuits?

Comment author: steven0461 24 May 2011 08:19:26PM *  2 points [-]

That certainly seems to be to some extent true of real humans, but the point is that even if I'm to some extent a random hodgepodge, this does not obviously create in me an impulse to consult a brain scan readout or a table of my counterfactual behaviors and then follow those at the expense of whatever my other semi-random considerations are causing me to feel is right.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 24 May 2011 08:48:32PM *  3 points [-]

this does not obviously create in me an impulse to consult a brain scan readout or a table of my counterfactual behaviors

Sure, unless one of the semi-random considerations that moves you is "Crap, my EV is not coherent. Well I don't want to lay down and wait to die, so let's just make an AI that will serve my current desires." :)

Comment author: lessdazed 08 November 2011 03:30:58PM 1 point [-]

Incoherent considerations aren't all that bad. Even if someone prefers A to B, B to C, and C to A, they'll just spend a lot of time switching rather than waiting to die. I guess that people probably prefer changing their considerations in general, so your example of a semi-random consideration is sufficient but not at all unique or uncommon.