Peterdjones comments on Pluralistic Moral Reductionism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Peterdjones 01 June 2011 07:11:52PM *  0 points [-]

My answer to that question is that it what morality is actually about, and that personal preference-optimisation is something else.

Comment author: gjm 01 June 2011 09:31:18PM 1 point [-]

I don't think Luke, at least, is conflating morality with personal preference-optimization. He's saying: Different people have different notions of "should"-ness, and if someone says "What should I do?" then giving them a good answer has to begin with working out what notion of "should" they're working with. That applies whether "should" is being used morally or prudentially or both.

Also: What makes a moral agent a moral agent is having personal preferences that give substantial weight to moral considerations. And what such an agent is actually deciding, on any given occasion, is what serves his/her/its goals best: it's just that among the important goals are things like "doing what is right" and "not doing what is wrong". So, actually, for a moral agent "personal preference-optimization" will sometimes involve a great deal of "what morality is actually about".

Comment author: Peterdjones 01 June 2011 09:46:06PM 0 points [-]

There's an important difference between saying preferences may or may not include moral values, and saying morality is, by definition, preference-maximiisation.

Comment author: gjm 01 June 2011 10:00:06PM 0 points [-]

Yup, there is. Did anyone say that morality is, by definition, preference-maximization?

Comment author: Peterdjones 01 June 2011 10:47:33PM 1 point [-]

Yes.

Comment author: gjm 01 June 2011 11:43:58PM 0 points [-]

Do please feel free to provide more information.