Vladimir_Nesov comments on Pluralistic Moral Reductionism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 02 June 2011 02:17:01AM *  2 points [-]

Moral facts are objective3 if they are made true or false by facts independent of the opinions of humans, otherwise they are subjective3.

Are the words of this comment subjective3 (if we drop the specifier "moral" for a moment, given that this idea is not defined in this context)? They are determined by my reasoning, but they also obey the laws of physics. The notion of "independent" is not easy to make precise.

Comment author: lukeprog 08 June 2011 07:08:03AM 0 points [-]

Right. It would take a lot of unpacking to make precise the term 'mind-independent.'

Comment author: wedrifid 02 June 2011 11:43:26AM *  0 points [-]

Are the words of this comment subjective3 (if we drop the specifier "moral" for a moment, given that this idea is not defined in this context)? They are determined by my reasoning, but they also obey the laws of physics. The notion of "independent" is not easy to make precise.

I had similar thoughts when reading that passage.

There is (also) a certain sense in which the concept 'objectively subjective' is relevant here.

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