Manfred comments on Pluralistic Moral Reductionism - Less Wrong

33 Post author: lukeprog 01 June 2011 12:59AM

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Comment author: Peterdjones 02 June 2011 02:23:11AM -1 points [-]

I agree, it doesn't look like there is much [objectivity] in this concept.

If you don't go looking for it, you won't find it. As is so ofen the case on LW, that door has been shut without even trying to see what is behind it.

I see no reason why "forbidden" in the moral sense should be objective

Try explaining to someone that something they like should be forbidden because you don't like it.

Okay. "If you don't stop, I will shoot you."

Arbitrary rules enforced with threats of violence is not an optimal outcome for me.

If you have an option other than

a) subjective laissez faire where serial killers are allowed to do their own thing

or

b) Tyranny

I'd be glad to hear it. I know I have.

But seriously, WTF? Is that supposed to be an argument that if something is morally forbidden to one person it should be the same for another person?

Of course. No one should murder. I'm surprised you find that surprising.

Comment author: Manfred 02 June 2011 05:04:56AM 0 points [-]

If you don't go looking for it, you won't find it.

Rather than chastising me, why not explain how "forbidden" is objective?

Re: shooting people: it was a joke. The WTF was not with respect to shooting people. It was because your demand was a non sequitur.

Comment author: Peterdjones 02 June 2011 12:48:18PM *  -1 points [-]

Rather than chastising me, why not explain how "forbidden" is objective?

For start: are you aware of various (googleablle) standard defenses of metaethical ojectivism?

Comment author: Manfred 05 June 2011 10:33:18PM 1 point [-]

Is there some other place where you have defended metaethical (or even moral) objectivism?

Comment author: Manfred 02 June 2011 10:06:56PM 1 point [-]

I am aware of various defenses and find them all thoroughly lacking, but I doubt I have exhausted even the common possibilities. Go for it.