Nisan comments on A less wrong way to talk about the arts? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nisan 27 May 2011 08:26:16PM *  5 points [-]

I don't have enough of a background in music theory to offer a sophisticated critique of any piece of music, but I can appreciate the use of critical analysis to partially understand the phenomenology of aesthetics. Allow me to illustrate:

Daft Punk's mashup of "Around The World" and "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" (from their Alive tour) is a supremely epic piece of music, and one of the things that makes it so is the fact that it is two songs — each of which is a good song on its own — that go well together. The same kind of thing makes Gounod's Ave Maria good — it's played on top of Bach's Prelude in C Major. If you know something about music theory, feel free to correct me.

Now when I say that a song is a "supremely epic piece of music", I am half-joking. I'm lampshading the Mind Projection Fallacy. The music makes me excited, and happy, and moves me profoundly; and that happens partly because listening to two melodies in harmony with each other makes me more excited. I don't expect others to like "Around the World/Harder, Better, Faster Stronger"; but I expect that for those that like it, this formal property of the music plays a role in their enjoyment.

And of course, that's not the whole story. There are other things that cause me to enjoy this song: There's something about the introduction of the base/percussion line at 1:13, for example. And it probably helps that I was familiar with both "Around the World" and "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" when I first heard this mashup. And conversely, not every mashup or counterpoint piece is good.

ETA: Furthermore, my other comment is an example where any attempt at objective criticism fails me.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 May 2011 09:44:05PM 1 point [-]

Thanks, you're the only one who actually did the exercise.

Was there/is there a social component to your enjoyment of this song? Was it a soundtrack to a particular event?

Comment author: rysade 29 May 2011 01:06:45AM -1 points [-]

Upvoted for "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger."