handoflixue comments on Teachable Rationality Skills - Less Wrong

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Comment author: handoflixue 31 May 2011 10:05:22PM 0 points [-]

(those who don't want to attend all that much selling to hardcore fans).

You're still assuming that "fan of the band" correlates with "rich". Hardcore fans can still be poor.

$200 per ticket, free tickets if you have low income and fill appropriately annoying paperwork as a barrier to entry.

This require more bureaucratic overhead and administration. Then there's the hassle of figuring out what percentage of tickets get reserved for the low-income, and the social outrage on both sides regardless of what ratio you decide on. Then there's the outrage from low income people being asked to do pointless paperwork just to prove they really love the band.

Potentially solvable, but what benefit does this give you that makes it worth those transitional costs?

Comment author: MixedNuts 31 May 2011 10:18:00PM 0 points [-]

You're still assuming that "fan of the band" correlates with "rich".

No, just that fans are willing to spend more (so I'm assuming the lack of a strong negative correlation). I don't mean to be crass, but being able to afford more things is sort of the point of being rich. (I keep getting those ideas for schemes where you pay a fixed percentage of your income.)

Yeah, okay, my suggested solutions suck. My outrage actually came from banning (and disapproving of) scalping. But I was wrong, it isn't a "selling is legal, that's protecting a monopoly" situation. The right to sell the right to attend isn't the right to attend. But it shouldn't be a banned commodity, it should be sold as well by the organization that sells the tickets (at prohibitively high prices if they hate scalping).

Comment author: handoflixue 31 May 2011 11:35:15PM 0 points [-]

Given the existence of ticket resellers, I'd assume it's possible for a retailer to mark tickets as "approved for resale", although I'd expect the nuances vary by jurisdiction. Certainly, plenty of concerts charge sufficiently to exclude a large portion of people due to income, so the goals outlined above are moot for at least some concerts. Certainly, I'd support the ability of retailers to sell "scalping rights" or not at their own discretion.

I don't mean to be crass, but being able to afford more things is sort of the point of being rich.

I'm quite aware of the privileges of wealth. I'd assume the point of this sort of social policy is to offset exactly that...