PhilGoetz comments on A simple counterexample to deBlanc 2007? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 30 May 2011 06:12:46AM *  0 points [-]

The percept sequences paper is his 2009 paper. That wiki page does refer to his 2007 paper; that may be an error.

It is in any case clear in the 2007 paper that the entities in the sum are possible worlds, and possible actions; and that it is the utility function that is unbounded. "Percepts" in this paper are the result of evaluating a possible-world function on a possible-action. None of this terminological quibbling affects anything I wrote.

As I quoted above, the 2007 paper says, "A computable utility function will have convergent expected utilities iff that function is bounded." Please dissect the difference between that, and the statement I made that you are criticizing, if you think my statement is a misinterpretation. (I just now changed my statement to "a utility function can have an expected value", but I assume you realize that was what I meant.)

Comment author: komponisto 30 May 2011 06:31:20AM *  0 points [-]

As I quoted above, the 2007 paper says, "A computable utility function will have convergent expected utilities iff that function is bounded." Please dissect the difference between that, and the statement I made that you are criticizing, if you think my statement is a misinterpretation.

In that case, the difference is the word "computable". Not that that affects your argument, since as I understood it your proposed counterexample is the identity function.