jasonmcdowell comments on Rationality Quotes: June 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jasonmcdowell 01 June 2011 09:23:48PM *  29 points [-]

I wish there was no illness, I don't care if an old doctor starves.

Loā Hô, a Taiwanese physician and poet.

Comment author: gwern 07 June 2011 03:59:54PM 10 points [-]

What I really like about this quote is that I'm fairly sure the 'old doctor' is himself.

Comment author: MixedNuts 01 June 2011 09:37:14PM 23 points [-]

I care. If illness is abolished and a doctor of any age is starving, they can stay at my place and I'll feed them. Alternately, we could raise taxes slightly to finance government-mandated programs for training and reconversion of young doctors and early retirement for old doctors.

In other words: beware of though-mindedly accepting bad consequences of overall good policies. Look for a superior alternative first.

Comment author: SilasBarta 01 June 2011 10:01:56PM *  23 points [-]

I agree. Unfortunately, the way it actually works is, "No, we can't allow your universal cure -- the AMA/[your country's MD association] is upset."

"No, we can't accept your free widgets -- that would cost our widgetmakers major sales."

"No, I don't want you to work for me for free -- that would put domestic servants out of jobs."

"No, I don't want to marry you -- that would hurt the income of local prostitutes."

"No, I don't want your solar radiation -- that would put our light and heat industries out of business."

Edit: Even better: "No, I don't want you to be my friend -- what about my therapist's loss of revenue?"

Comment author: wedrifid 01 June 2011 10:55:38PM *  16 points [-]

"No, I don't want to marry you -- that would hurt the income of local prostitutes."

That is a brilliant line. Now I'm trying to work out how to create a circumstance in which to use it.

Comment author: NihilCredo 04 June 2011 06:18:47PM 4 points [-]

The worst thing about how frequenting prostitutes is no longer socially acceptable, even for males, is that there are so many quips and jokes that just don't work any more.

Comment author: TeMPOraL 07 July 2013 08:39:14PM 0 points [-]

Was it ever socially acceptable?

Comment author: MixedNuts 01 June 2011 10:10:59PM 1 point [-]

IRL it's the pharmaceutic labs that block it, not the docs.

That's one of the reasons why you try to mitigate bad side effects: so that people who'll suffer on net from the efffects will STFU.

Comment author: SilasBarta 01 June 2011 11:09:03PM 1 point [-]

That's one of the reasons why you try to mitigate bad side effects: so that people who'll suffer on net from the efffects will STFU.

In theory, yes. And I'd much prefer a one-time ("extortion") payment to a domestic industry to allow cheaper imports, than allow the global economy to remain in a perpetual rut just so a few people don't have to change jobs.

But the fact that this alternative is Pareto-efficient doesn't mean the potential sufferers will STFU -- rather, it costs the alternative its public support, probably because the average person, sympathetic to the domestic industry, still sees it as extortion. And the people in the domestic industry don't want to see themselves as extortioners either! (Relevant Landsburg post.)

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 03 June 2011 11:12:51AM 6 points [-]

IAWYC. One quibble:

we could raise taxes slightly to finance government-mandated programs for...early retirement for old doctors.

If illness is abolished, what's the point of retirement?

Comment author: NihilCredo 04 June 2011 06:20:08PM *  5 points [-]

To keep dusky sports pubs in business, of course.

Comment author: endoself 01 June 2011 09:42:29PM *  3 points [-]

That can be a danger, but I think starvation is an obvious enough problem that people won't take this literally.

Comment author: Document 01 June 2011 09:44:04PM *  4 points [-]

Starvation is an illness. (Or food dependency if you prefer.)

Comment author: Alicorn 01 June 2011 10:27:55PM 16 points [-]
Comment author: Document 13 July 2011 05:31:58PM 1 point [-]

SMBC #2305 is another, more cynical instance of the false dichotomy.