Dorikka comments on Rationality Quotes: June 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dorikka 02 June 2011 04:04:49AM 3 points [-]

This is confusing. Does your use of violence change your intended destination, or does it just exert certain optimization pressures on future world-states, as do all of your other actions?

Comment author: brazzy 03 June 2011 09:34:26AM 5 points [-]

Read the (long) linked-to article from which the quote stems. Basically the point is that using violence to achieve a goal teaches the people involved that violence is an effective, legitimate way to achieve goals - and at some later point they will invariably have conflicting goals.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 June 2011 10:47:46AM 5 points [-]

See also: Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 02 June 2011 06:58:49PM 2 points [-]

I'm not sure there's a useful distinction between those two options. Your future selves are part of the future world-states that it's exerting pressure on, and not exempt from that pressure.