RolfAndreassen comments on About addition and truth - Less Wrong

-1 Post author: RolfAndreassen 02 June 2011 08:34PM

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Comment author: RolfAndreassen 04 June 2011 12:57:59AM 0 points [-]

Well, perhaps my question is better phrased as, "What is the referent of mathematics which does not describe objects in the universe?"

Comment author: [deleted] 04 June 2011 02:39:25AM 0 points [-]

It's a certain model that exists within your mind and your mathematics textbook. :)

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 04 June 2011 04:09:22AM 0 points [-]

Models are tested by reference to experiment. If the model only exists in my head, what is the experiment that tests it? If there is no external reference, then in what sense can anything at all be said to contradict the model?

Comment author: [deleted] 04 June 2011 01:30:13PM *  2 points [-]

Are models tested by reference to experiment? You can demonstrate that a model is inapplicable in some cases; if it's inapplicable in all cases, it is useless; I don't know if it means anything to say that the model itself is false.

This is doubly so when applied to mathematics; mathematics (specifically, logic) is the model that gives a context to the term "contradiction"; that tells what it means and how we know it applies.