juliawise comments on Rational Romantic Relationships, Part 1: Relationship Styles and Attraction Basics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: juliawise 15 November 2011 01:02:28AM -2 points [-]

The PUA mythology tries to equivocate between spoofing the signals to indicate that you have such qualities and actually having such qualities but I think competent rationalists should be able to keep their eye on the ball too well to fall for that.

This. But you forgot "using canine social structure as if it were identical to human social structure."

Comment author: Vaniver 15 November 2011 05:21:48AM 2 points [-]

My complaint with the whole "alpha" and "beta" terminology is that it doesn't seem to be derived from canine social structure. The omega rank seems more appropriate to what PUAs call "beta."

Comment author: juliawise 15 November 2011 07:44:50PM 4 points [-]

Reading more, it doesn't seem like any of these terms are accurate even to canine society. They were based on observing unrelated gray wolves kept together in captivity, where their social structures bore little resemblance to their normal groupings in the wild (a breeding pair and their cubs). More accurate terms for would be "parents" and "offspring", which match nicely to human families but aren't that useful for picking up women in bars.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 16 November 2011 12:26:25AM -1 points [-]

We hope.