ciphergoth comments on Money: The Unit of Caring - Less Wrong

95 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 31 March 2009 12:35PM

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Comment author: michaelsullivan 31 March 2009 03:32:13PM 20 points [-]

Julian's comment is on point though. I've been involved with any number of charitable organizations where it is expected that people donate significant time for things like bake sales or craft fairs or dinners in order to raise money, where if you took the money raised minus costs divided by the total hours spent, people would have done better taking second jobs at McDonald's and donating the money.

Plus, we're often providing a product which wouldn't sell for that price on the open market, with custom driven largely by people's affinity for the organization raising the money.

All in all, fund-raisers that aren't either a good leisure activity for all involved, or relentlessly and professionally focused and profitable (i.e. don't encourage random volunteers -- only those with relevant marketable skills and make sure the venture would at least be break-even if you accounted for fair value of labor) are just a horrendous waste of resources. Just get people to write checks.

And yes I beat this drum at every socially appropriate opportunity for every charitable organization I'm associated with.

Comment author: ciphergoth 31 March 2009 04:01:12PM 17 points [-]

The charities are being rational - they're raising money in a way which is effective given the irrationality of the givers.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 31 March 2009 04:09:05PM 12 points [-]

Yet another thing where raising the rationality waterline would help us all.