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All of your other examples are pleasure causing. Don't you notice that?
Again, getting my brain rewired is not in the original question. I would decline getting my brain rewired; that seems like carte blanche for a lot of things that I cannot predict. I would decline.
Survival of the community and children, knowledge, and understanding all bring me pleasure. I think if those things caused me pain, I would fight them. In fact, I think I have good evidence for this.
When cultures have a painful response to the survival of OTHER cultures, they go to war. When people see pain for "enemies" they do not sympathize. When it is something you self-identify with, your own culture, only then does it cause pleasure.
Those things you cite are valued because they cause pleasure. I don't see any evidence that when those things cause pain, that they are still pursued.
@CuSithBell: I agree.
--Sorry, I don't know how to get the quote blocks, or I would respond more directly.
After you click "Reply", you can click on "Help" at the bottom right of the textbox and see the available formatting options. To add quotes you just need to place a "> " at the beginning of a line.