steven0461 comments on Rationality: Common Interest of Many Causes - Less Wrong

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Comment author: steven0461 29 March 2009 04:29:45PM *  4 points [-]

It's pretty clear-cut. Bacteria are living things, therefore compassion for all living things implies compassion for bacteria. If it's appropriate to feel compassion for dogs but not bacteria, the property that makes it so is not life, but something else.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 29 March 2009 04:31:58PM 5 points [-]

It's pretty clear-cut. He spoke of showing a particular level of compassion to a dog. He also spoke of showing some compassion to all living things. He did not say to show the same level of compassion to all living things. I believe you fail to understand that your argument is not logical because you are thinking in terms of binary distinctions. Your mention of that "the property that makes it so" demonstrates this.

Comment author: steven0461 29 March 2009 04:36:24PM 2 points [-]

Zero or nonzero is a binary distinction. Do you disagree that it's appropriate to feel zero compassion for bacteria?

Comment author: PhilGoetz 29 March 2009 09:30:22PM *  5 points [-]

You're still thinking in binary terms. Zero or non-zero is a distinction that can be made arbitrarily useless.

If someone said that they wanted everyone in the world to have shoes, you would not assume that they also wanted people with no feet to have shoes. If a bacteria qualitatively lacks the feelings that are necessary for you to feel compassion for them, you assume they are not included.

If the universe were colonized by nothing but bacteria, I would not sterilize it, even if that bacteria could never evolve into anything else.