diegocaleiro comments on Out of the closet as a Positive Utilitarian - Less Wrong

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Comment author: diegocaleiro 15 June 2011 02:16:49PM *  1 point [-]

The first one.

that is I am not saying that everyone should be doing something. I am just saying that if someone was not feeling OK because he didn't go all the way into negative utilitarianism, it was still ok to be just positive utilitarianist.

Comment author: Nisan 15 June 2011 02:53:45PM 0 points [-]

For the sake of concreteness, would you like to say what sort of things a positive utilitarian like you would do to make the world a better place?

Comment author: diegocaleiro 15 June 2011 02:59:38PM 2 points [-]

Sure, Write Life-advice kinds of books, in Ferriss/AJ Jacobs style Write Philosophical Articles Create a Transhumanist Institution in Brazil, to transform Rationalists into Utilitarians into Transhumanists Organize complex engaging events on facebook for friends that would cause happiness that would not have happened otherwise. Make a lot of people laugh in a cryonics conference and become known as the happiness guy Read many books on happiness, and upon request, give people data on how to be happy (count blessings twice a week, force smiles when bored, write 300 words thank you notes and read them outloud, wear botox, etc...) There are so many other things...

Comment author: Nisan 15 June 2011 02:26:49PM *  -1 points [-]

Ah, so you're saying that the best thing one can do is to optimize the amount of happiness in the world. The supporting arguments I found in your post are:

  • You don't like thinking about suffering; and

  • One could do a lot worse than be a positive utilitarian.

ETA: Ah, ignore this comment. Those two points don't seem compelling at all.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 15 June 2011 02:38:10PM *  0 points [-]

No, that is absurd, you just said, You are not saying A, you are saying B (in your first paragraph) I said, Yes, I am saying B, and now you said I am saying A......

I am saying that For me, and possibly for other people around there, the best thing is to Max happiness/preferences. I just want these people to feel confortable with that.

I think with the edit I made clear now that I'm not arguing in favor of positive utilitarianism.
It seems that the default assumption is always that if a person is describing a position, they are arguing for it.

Comment author: Nisan 15 June 2011 02:48:33PM 0 points [-]

Ah, I misunderstood your response before the edit.